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#331
18 Frags +

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dxc1Bh7UwAAwhre.jpg

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#332
-8 Frags +

yeah dude playing with my friend is exactly the same as playing with a cheater you caught me brimstone

yeah dude playing with my friend is exactly the same as playing with a cheater you caught me brimstone
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#333
-7 Frags +
aierayall raging about us faking picking up catface but say nothing when uber, um, crate, christie, monkeyjedi, and walrex actually played a match with someone with a tf2 vac that was less than a month old

its all about expectations, I assume those type of players would pull a stunt like playing with a vac banned player, the community didn't expect an epic gamer troll from y'all tho

but you have to admit its scummy as hell to roster "two" invite players in open

[quote=aiera]yall raging about us faking picking up catface but say nothing when uber, um, crate, christie, monkeyjedi, and walrex actually played a match with someone with a tf2 vac that was less than a month old[/quote]

its all about expectations, I assume those type of players would pull a stunt like playing with a vac banned player, the community didn't expect an epic gamer troll from y'all tho

but you have to admit its scummy as hell to roster "two" invite players in open
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#334
10 Frags +

Kev gets vac-banned for cheating in a match, no one cares

People play with recently vac banned player, no one cares

You guys really don't care about that sort of thing?

Kev gets vac-banned for cheating in a match, no one cares

People play with recently vac banned player, no one cares

You guys really don't care about that sort of thing?
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#335
-8 Frags +

we do, however none of us have any power to change it.
what do you propose us to do?

we do, however none of us have any power to change it.
what do you propose us to do?
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#336
6 Frags +

Well, at least be pissed off for one. Just shrugging it off like it's not a big deal because you feel powerless just enables that attitude even more. In fact feeling powerless should make you even more pissed off.

EDIT: By "enables that attitude even more" I mean makes it even easier for people to feel okay for cheating.

Well, at least be pissed off for one. Just shrugging it off like it's not a big deal because you feel powerless just enables that attitude even more. In fact feeling powerless should make you even more pissed off.

EDIT: By "enables that attitude even more" I mean makes it even easier for people to feel okay for cheating.
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#337
13 Frags +

https://i.imgur.com/jRLl4Gb.png

[img]https://i.imgur.com/jRLl4Gb.png[/img]
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#338
-8 Frags +

having no power to deal with cheaters is what empowers them, they are more than aware of this fact, if their was some sort of punishment then they might just stop.

and do not get me wrong I am just as mad as everyone else but in my opinion two major issues in open is sandbagging and hackers. sandbaggers taking the high ground and pointing their fingers is them getting a scapegoat. while one is much worse than the other they both are problems plaguing this division and need to be dealt with.

having no power to deal with cheaters is what empowers them, they are more than aware of this fact, if their was some sort of punishment then they might just stop.

and do not get me wrong I am just as mad as everyone else but in my opinion two major issues in open is sandbagging and hackers. sandbaggers taking the high ground and pointing their fingers is them getting a scapegoat. while one is much worse than the other they both are problems plaguing this division and need to be dealt with.
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#339
31 Frags +
NursayKev gets vac-banned for cheating in a match, no one cares

People play with recently vac banned player, no one cares

You guys really don't care about that sort of thing?

u play on a team with a player who admitted to cheating in lobbies (habib)

perhaps u could make a stand?

[quote=Nursay]Kev gets vac-banned for cheating in a match, no one cares

People play with recently vac banned player, no one cares

You guys really don't care about that sort of thing?[/quote]

u play on a team with a player who admitted to [url=https://rebelconquer.net/29916/hassassin-cheat-evidence]cheating[/url] in lobbies (habib)

perhaps u could make a stand?
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#340
17 Frags +
Panda_RaceCar37having no power to deal with cheaters is what empowers them, they are more than aware of this fact, if their was some sort of punishment then they might just stop.

and do not get me wrong I am just as mad as everyone else but in my opinion two major issues in open is sandbagging and hackers. sandbaggers taking the high ground and pointing their fingers is them getting a scapegoat. while one is much worse than the other they both are problems plaguing this division and need to be dealt with.

says the person playing with 4 im players and the rest having open playoffs exp
stop trying to take the high ground lnao

[quote=Panda_RaceCar37]having no power to deal with cheaters is what empowers them, they are more than aware of this fact, if their was some sort of punishment then they might just stop.

and do not get me wrong I am just as mad as everyone else but in my opinion two major issues in open is sandbagging and hackers. sandbaggers taking the high ground and pointing their fingers is them getting a scapegoat. while one is much worse than the other they both are problems plaguing this division and need to be dealt with.[/quote]
says the person playing with 4 im players and the rest having open playoffs exp
stop trying to take the high ground lnao
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#341
2 Frags +

Ok so a lot of mistakes made on my part here but first thing first, I didn't cheat

Like over a year ago I played on a steel hl team with funny bunny and he asked me for an alt's info so he can play lobbies cuz he's banned on his main and my alt had over 300 hours on it. He got that banned on tf2center as well but I never changed the account info.

As you guys prolly know, he also got banned from DM servers and AS mge for hacking. This was all after going on that account and using free lmaobox because he didn't have premium at the time. He got that alt banned within like 5 minutes.

Since everyone on our team are just using alts I decided to also do that with said alt account. Literally on the day of our match I tried to log in to that account and found out that it was vac'd and had to make a new one.

So yeah I'm a retard for having this happen in the first place but I'm sure there are a lot of people who can testify that I'm not a hacker.

TLDR friend got my account vac'd and I didn't realize while making that esea alt

Ok so a lot of mistakes made on my part here but first thing first, I didn't cheat

Like over a year ago I played on a steel hl team with funny bunny and he asked me for an alt's info so he can play lobbies cuz he's banned on his main and my alt had over 300 hours on it. He got that banned on tf2center as well but I never changed the account info.

As you guys prolly know, he also got banned from DM servers and AS mge for hacking. This was all after going on that account and using free lmaobox because he didn't have premium at the time. He got that alt banned within like 5 minutes.

Since everyone on our team are just using alts I decided to also do that with said alt account. Literally on the day of our match I tried to log in to that account and found out that it was vac'd and had to make a new one.

So yeah I'm a retard for having this happen in the first place but I'm sure there are a lot of people who can testify that I'm not a hacker.

TLDR friend got my account vac'd and I didn't realize while making that esea alt
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#342
11 Frags +

anyone who thinks msh cheated before is dead from the neck up lol

anyone who thinks msh cheated before is dead from the neck up lol
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#343
7 Frags +

if u think msh is cheating or has cheated ur more braindead than msh is
also i can confirm that funny bunny has access to that account and that account got vac'd cuz of him

now can we get back to there being 2 invite players on an open team

edit:

aierayall raging about us faking picking up catface but say nothing when uber, um, crate, christie, monkeyjedi, and walrex actually played a match with someone with a tf2 vac that was less than a month old

if u found out who was on that team from the alts couldn't u just have found out who owned the vac'd alt too

if u think msh is cheating or has cheated ur more braindead than msh is
also i can confirm that funny bunny has access to that account and that account got vac'd cuz of him

now can we get back to there being 2 invite players on an open team

edit: [quote=aiera]yall raging about us faking picking up catface but say nothing when uber, um, crate, christie, monkeyjedi, and walrex actually played a match with someone with a tf2 vac that was less than a month old[/quote]

if u found out who was on that team from the alts couldn't u just have found out who owned the vac'd alt too
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#344
-10 Frags +

If your cheat you're trash and if you play Open as an Invite level player you're the human equivalent of a garbage can. Apply yourself.

If your cheat you're trash and if you play Open as an Invite level player you're the human equivalent of a garbage can. Apply yourself.
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#345
-6 Frags +

ya'll really out here hating on rekuso playing demo in open and me not playing at all when mr popo is out here with 5 invite players on his team that actually play (not even mentioning the various high im players)

ya'll really out here hating on rekuso playing demo in open and me not playing at all when mr popo is out here with 5 invite players on his team that actually play (not even mentioning the various high im players)
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#346
10 Frags +
catfaceya'll really out here hating on rekuso playing demo in open and me not playing at all when mr popo is out here with 5 invite players on his team that actually play

honestly i forgot this team existed but ur right

[quote=catface]ya'll really out here hating on rekuso playing demo in open and me not playing at all when mr popo is out here with 5 invite players on his team that actually play[/quote]

honestly i forgot this team existed but ur right
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#347
1 Frags +
ether_if u found out who was on that team from the alts couldn't u just have found out who owned the vac'd alt too

no i really couldnt have i literally only figured out who the alts were based on scrim logs and msh hadnt scrimmed with them but continue jumping to comclusions

they are literally fresh blank private accounts if you can figure out who owns one of those please share your methods

[quote=ether_]if u found out who was on that team from the alts couldn't u just have found out who owned the vac'd alt too[/quote]
no i really couldnt have i literally only figured out who the alts were based on scrim logs and msh hadnt scrimmed with them but continue jumping to comclusions

they are literally fresh blank private accounts if you can figure out who owns one of those please share your methods
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#348
8 Frags +
jetzzzzzNursayKev gets vac-banned for cheating in a match, no one cares

People play with recently vac banned player, no one cares

You guys really don't care about that sort of thing?

u play on a team with a player who admitted to cheating in lobbies (habib)

perhaps u could make a stand?

It's not up to the players in our leagues to police other players. It has never been up to the players regarding cheaters.
The blame and/or action required always needs to come from the league and the admins that allow known cheaters to play in league settings.

This exact discussion has happened several times in the past with the same culprits and the same lame excuses to legitimize a cheater. (He didn't cheat at LAN, etc)

I have over 20 years of online gaming experience and in all the communities I have participated in, the TF2 community is by far the most lax concerning cheaters that I have ever experienced.

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ps. I am not talking about this incident at all, just about cheating in general.
[quote=jetzzzzz][quote=Nursay]Kev gets vac-banned for cheating in a match, no one cares

People play with recently vac banned player, no one cares

You guys really don't care about that sort of thing?[/quote]

u play on a team with a player who admitted to [url=https://rebelconquer.net/29916/hassassin-cheat-evidence]cheating[/url] in lobbies (habib)

perhaps u could make a stand?[/quote]

It's not up to the players in our leagues to police other players. It has never been up to the players regarding cheaters.
The blame and/or action required always needs to come from the league and the admins that allow known cheaters to play in league settings.

This exact discussion has happened several times in the past with the same culprits and the same lame excuses to legitimize a cheater. (He didn't cheat at LAN, etc)

I have over 20 years of online gaming experience and in all the communities I have participated in, the TF2 community is by far the most lax concerning cheaters that I have ever experienced.

[spoiler]ps. I am not talking about this incident at all, just about cheating in general.[/spoiler]
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#349
-1 Frags +

tf2 is so hard

tf2 is so hard
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#350
-18 Frags +
jetzzzzzNursayKev gets vac-banned for cheating in a match, no one cares

People play with recently vac banned player, no one cares

You guys really don't care about that sort of thing?

u play on a team with a player who admitted to cheating in lobbies (habib)

perhaps u could make a stand?

I talk about his shady past pretty frequently and still question him sometimes. There is a kind of well viewed clip of me iirc of me questioning habib as recently as last year. Even though him and I are pretty close friends, I still hold this greatly against him and have talked about it and still make mentions of this. Him and I being teammates does not mean I forgive him for his past decisions either in that regard.

I cannot make decisions against cheaters personally by myself, just like any of you guys. But I am pissed off about it. I am still pissed off at habib for choosing to do that.

[quote=jetzzzzz][quote=Nursay]Kev gets vac-banned for cheating in a match, no one cares

People play with recently vac banned player, no one cares

You guys really don't care about that sort of thing?[/quote]

u play on a team with a player who admitted to [url=https://rebelconquer.net/29916/hassassin-cheat-evidence]cheating[/url] in lobbies (habib)

perhaps u could make a stand?[/quote]

I talk about his shady past pretty frequently and still question him sometimes. There is a kind of well viewed clip of me iirc of me questioning habib as recently as last year. Even though him and I are pretty close friends, I still hold this greatly against him and have talked about it and still make mentions of this. Him and I being teammates does not mean I forgive him for his past decisions either in that regard.

I cannot make decisions against cheaters personally by myself, just like any of you guys. But I am pissed off about it. I am still pissed off at habib for choosing to do that.
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#351
25 Frags +
NursayjetzzzzzNursayKev gets vac-banned for cheating in a match, no one cares

People play with recently vac banned player, no one cares

You guys really don't care about that sort of thing?

u play on a team with a player who admitted to cheating in lobbies (habib)

perhaps u could make a stand?

I talk about his shady past pretty frequently and still question him sometimes. There is a kind of well viewed clip of me iirc of me questioning habib as recently as last year. Even though him and I are pretty close friends, I still hold this greatly against him and have talked about it and still make mentions of this. Him and I being teammates does not mean I forgive him for his past decisions either in that regard.

I cannot make decisions against cheaters personally by myself, just like any of you guys. But I am pissed off about it. I am still pissed off at habib for choosing to do that.

lol

[quote=Nursay][quote=jetzzzzz][quote=Nursay]Kev gets vac-banned for cheating in a match, no one cares

People play with recently vac banned player, no one cares

You guys really don't care about that sort of thing?[/quote]

u play on a team with a player who admitted to [url=https://rebelconquer.net/29916/hassassin-cheat-evidence]cheating[/url] in lobbies (habib)

perhaps u could make a stand?[/quote]

I talk about his shady past pretty frequently and still question him sometimes. There is a kind of well viewed clip of me iirc of me questioning habib as recently as last year. Even though him and I are pretty close friends, I still hold this greatly against him and have talked about it and still make mentions of this. Him and I being teammates does not mean I forgive him for his past decisions either in that regard.

I cannot make decisions against cheaters personally by myself, just like any of you guys. But I am pissed off about it. I am still pissed off at habib for choosing to do that.[/quote]

lol
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#352
12 Frags +
NursayjetzzzzzNursayKev gets vac-banned for cheating in a match, no one cares

People play with recently vac banned player, no one cares

You guys really don't care about that sort of thing?

u play on a team with a player who admitted to cheating in lobbies (habib)

perhaps u could make a stand?

I talk about his shady past pretty frequently and still question him sometimes. There is a kind of well viewed clip of me iirc of me questioning habib as recently as last year. Even though him and I are pretty close friends, I still hold this greatly against him and have talked about it and still make mentions of this. Him and I being teammates does not mean I forgive him for his past decisions either in that regard.

I cannot make decisions against cheaters personally by myself, just like any of you guys. But I am pissed off about it. I am still pissed off at habib for choosing to do that.

Its easy don't play with cheaters, if everyone just didn't accept them and exiled from every team they tried to join we would be cheater free. Because who wants to play with a cheater.

[quote=Nursay][quote=jetzzzzz][quote=Nursay]Kev gets vac-banned for cheating in a match, no one cares

People play with recently vac banned player, no one cares

You guys really don't care about that sort of thing?[/quote]

u play on a team with a player who admitted to [url=https://rebelconquer.net/29916/hassassin-cheat-evidence]cheating[/url] in lobbies (habib)

perhaps u could make a stand?[/quote]

I talk about his shady past pretty frequently and still question him sometimes. There is a kind of well viewed clip of me iirc of me questioning habib as recently as last year. Even though him and I are pretty close friends, I still hold this greatly against him and have talked about it and still make mentions of this. Him and I being teammates does not mean I forgive him for his past decisions either in that regard.

I cannot make decisions against cheaters personally by myself, just like any of you guys. But I am pissed off about it. I am still pissed off at habib for choosing to do that.[/quote]
Its easy don't play with cheaters, if everyone just didn't accept them and exiled from every team they tried to join we would be cheater free. Because who wants to play with a cheater.
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#353
20 Frags +

https://streamable.com/6qswz

https://streamable.com/6qswz
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#354
-3 Frags +
PootisJrIf your cheat you're trash and if you play Open as an Invite level player you're the human equivalent of a garbage can. Apply yourself.

dumbest human on planet earth

[quote=PootisJr]If your cheat you're trash and if you play Open as an Invite level player you're the human equivalent of a garbage can. Apply yourself.[/quote]

dumbest human on planet earth
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#355
23 Frags +

PunOko Cheaters PunOko
I agree cheating is wrong and people who cheat will always have that as apart of their reputation. I had to quit playing tf2 for about a year until I realized I had made a terrible mistake and came back to play IM scout made top 4 playoffs. I continued to improve because this game the only way to improve is by putting in time and effort. Knowing my reputation was now branded as a cheater because of doing well in open right before I started cheating the next season people question my skill as a player and probably still do. I got lucky enough to get on a team after not playing for a full season for like four seasons ( shoutouts to vaati, azn,Nate,megawac, and sideways).
I had to play cs go and overwatch to fill the tf2 void for a year and I can tell you I've never been so mad at a video game than playing esea pugs and overwatch ranked. After getting to A rank after months of cs dealing with all the chimps from D rank to B rank then getting rolled each pug because of the matchmaking in pugs being questionable( I got matched up against two pros queuing and Stanislaw twice in one day) almost made me pop a vein. Then overwatch was the new big game at the time of my VACation I decided to try it out for fun eventually becoming good enough to make GM. I am a very competitive player and have some temper issues, so you know the journey wasn't always fun. The season I was about to get GM I was at 3993-3999 like seven times and kept getting some mouth breathing simian saying today's the day symmetra will win on attack on hanamura (or other two cp aids map before symmetra was good). Once I got to GM, I realized how aids the game was I put it down and thought about TF2. I never get as angry, I enjoy playing, and there isn't a specific set of team comps that need to be performed to win.
So I ate my 1-year ban for cheating suffered rat aids from playing those two games, and I can tell you I regret cheating as much as I regret yelling " YOU DUMB Trihard GET OFF SYMMETRA" or " Do you ride the short bus to school fucking hold A stop running in on CT!. Took years off my life and a year of playing a game I always find enjoyable.
As for sandbaggers yeah it sucks and has been a trend for a long time. I want everyone who isn't a sandbagger and has to deal with them in open or IM to know you guys are great never feel down about losing to some ape who came down to play ....when he can apparently play ... Remember if you take a round or 2 off them being new players they fucking blow and or you are just getting better two things that people should be happy about because sandbagging probably won't stop. Invite can be exhausting to play if you only get rolled and maybe that player got good enough that the other divisions will be more comfortable. Like not making playoffs directly from just barely not being good enough or not being good enough to place higher than 9th is fucking aids. I don't have to imagine that but you guys try doing so, and this is what leads people to dodge invite or going let's play open or IM with my friends for whatever reason. So next time you play a sandbagging team at the end of the season if you place lower than them move yourself up a slot because that's what you should have placed if your new. Now if you've been playing open or IM for 20 decades longer than my HENTAI list I have to be harder on you GET BETTER and stop complaining AND USING EXCUSES. I put a lot of time in and effort before and after I cheated so if an ex-cheating rat ape can make invite pretty sure anyone can if they try.
(Open nerd essay checked off wheres the bingo sheet at boys)
Yours Truly, Rat

PunOko Cheaters PunOko
I agree cheating is wrong and people who cheat will always have that as apart of their reputation. I had to quit playing tf2 for about a year until I realized I had made a terrible mistake and came back to play IM scout made top 4 playoffs. I continued to improve because this game the only way to improve is by putting in time and effort. Knowing my reputation was now branded as a cheater because of doing well in open right before I started cheating the next season people question my skill as a player and probably still do. I got lucky enough to get on a team after not playing for a full season for like four seasons ( shoutouts to vaati, azn,Nate,megawac, and sideways).
I had to play cs go and overwatch to fill the tf2 void for a year and I can tell you I've never been so mad at a video game than playing esea pugs and overwatch ranked. After getting to A rank after months of cs dealing with all the chimps from D rank to B rank then getting rolled each pug because of the matchmaking in pugs being questionable( I got matched up against two pros queuing and Stanislaw twice in one day) almost made me pop a vein. Then overwatch was the new big game at the time of my VACation I decided to try it out for fun eventually becoming good enough to make GM. I am a very competitive player and have some temper issues, so you know the journey wasn't always fun. The season I was about to get GM I was at 3993-3999 like seven times and kept getting some mouth breathing simian saying today's the day symmetra will win on attack on hanamura (or other two cp aids map before symmetra was good). Once I got to GM, I realized how aids the game was I put it down and thought about TF2. I never get as angry, I enjoy playing, and there isn't a specific set of team comps that need to be performed to win.
So I ate my 1-year ban for cheating suffered rat aids from playing those two games, and I can tell you I regret cheating as much as I regret yelling " YOU DUMB Trihard GET OFF SYMMETRA" or " Do you ride the short bus to school fucking hold A stop running in on CT!. Took years off my life and a year of playing a game I always find enjoyable.
As for sandbaggers yeah it sucks and has been a trend for a long time. I want everyone who isn't a sandbagger and has to deal with them in open or IM to know you guys are great never feel down about losing to some ape who came down to play ....when he can apparently play ... Remember if you take a round or 2 off them being new players they fucking blow and or you are just getting better two things that people should be happy about because sandbagging probably won't stop. Invite can be exhausting to play if you only get rolled and maybe that player got good enough that the other divisions will be more comfortable. Like not making playoffs directly from just barely not being good enough or not being good enough to place higher than 9th is fucking aids. I don't have to imagine that but you guys try doing so, and this is what leads people to dodge invite or going let's play open or IM with my friends for whatever reason. So next time you play a sandbagging team at the end of the season if you place lower than them move yourself up a slot because that's what you should have placed if your new. Now if you've been playing open or IM for 20 decades longer than my HENTAI list I have to be harder on you GET BETTER and stop complaining AND USING EXCUSES. I put a lot of time in and effort before and after I cheated so if an ex-cheating rat ape can make invite pretty sure anyone can if they try.
(Open nerd essay checked off wheres the bingo sheet at boys)
Yours Truly, Rat
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#356
-5 Frags +

https://cdn.drawception.com/images/panels/2017/10-4/qsfzcwxdkA-3.png

https://cdn.drawception.com/images/panels/2017/10-4/qsfzcwxdkA-3.png
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#357
0 Frags +

http://townsquare.media/site/812/files/2018/06/Lil-Uzi-Dance.jpg

[img]http://townsquare.media/site/812/files/2018/06/Lil-Uzi-Dance.jpg[/img]
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#358
22 Frags +

petition to perma ban all invite players currently rostered and maining in open breathe to sign

petition to perma ban all invite players currently rostered and maining in open breathe to sign
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#359
-18 Frags +

petition to ban scratch for saying the n word be alive to sign

petition to ban scratch for saying the n word be alive to sign
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#360
-19 Frags +
dishsoappetition to ban scratch for saying the n word be alive to sign

this is funny please dont downfrag this

[quote=dishsoap]petition to ban scratch for saying the n word be alive to sign[/quote]
this is funny please dont downfrag this
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